information, you know, and i'm sorry, but "meet the press" is becoming like fox news to me. bill, help me, please. you and i may be around the same age. you may be a little bit younger than me but what's the gentleman's name that used to be the moderate on meet the press. >> tim russert. >> tim russert and before tim russert, it was somebody else but these guys were excellent. even with jake on the young turks, he would hold the democrats' feet to the fire. this is what we, the people, we the american public, you know expect from our press. >> bill: right. >> caller: we don't get that the on "meet the press" any more >> bill: it's not supposed to be a forum where people can spout off propaganda. >> that's why i don't watch them any more. beverly out in saint david, illinois. what the do you say? >> caller: good morning to you, and how are you, bill?